Comments on: Klein Style Electric Guitar Project #1 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar Guitar Designs. Ergonomics. Guitar Making. Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:42:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Jonathonhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-15986 Jonathon Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:29:33 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-15986 Hey! Sorry to keep bothering you, just wondering what you grounded the wiring to? I know the bridge is the common favourite, but if you did ground it to the bridge, how did you do it? Cheers, Jon. Hey! Sorry to keep bothering you, just wondering what you grounded the wiring to? I know the bridge is the common favourite, but if you did ground it to the bridge, how did you do it? Cheers, Jon.

]]> By: Jonathon Boothhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-12654 Jonathon Booth Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:23:29 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-12654 Cheers for the advice. I'm planning on a solid alder body electric guitar and have a shape which I think should be very comfortable with a bit of luck, I'm just waiting on funds at the moment, I'll post back when I have started. The guitar looks very good though, good job!Jon. Cheers for the advice. I’m planning on a solid alder body electric guitar and have a shape which I think should be very comfortable with a bit of luck, I’m just waiting on funds at the moment, I’ll post back when I have started. The guitar looks very good though, good job!

Jon.

]]> By: Robert Irizarryhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-12594 Robert Irizarry Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:28:16 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-12594 @Mike J - Let me take a look. I may have a Steinberger guitar body laying around here somewhere. :) @Mike J – Let me take a look. I may have a Steinberger guitar body laying around here somewhere. :)

]]> By: Robert Irizarryhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-12593 Robert Irizarry Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:27:21 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-12593 @Jonathan Booth - I picked up a 12" drill bit and went through the neck pocket. But be careful! It doesn't take much to go off track and end up drilling out the back.What are you thinking of building? @Jonathan Booth – I picked up a 12″ drill bit and went through the neck pocket. But be careful! It doesn’t take much to go off track and end up drilling out the back.

What are you thinking of building?

]]> By: Robert Irizarryhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-12592 Robert Irizarry Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:24:13 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-12592 @Craig C - Very interesting comment and agree with the statement wholeheartedly. I'm a big proponent of form follows function and I believe there is great beauty in solving a problem elegantly.Light weight guitars don't have to lack sustain. In fact, my guitar sustains better than many off the shelf guitars.There are a lot of factors that go into an instrument's sustain including quality of construction and construction techniques. For example, the Musicyo Steinberger I picked up for the neck, bridge and headpiece had a very sloppy neck pocket. As soon as I removed the screws, it simply fell out. In comparison, my guitar's neck pocket is very snug - so much so that I could pick up the guitar by the neck without it being bolted in place! So right there, you have a much better mechanical connection and that is going to factor into sustain.That's just a small example but it should give you at least a small idea that there's more to it than just building them heavy. :) Come to think of it, there's probably an interesting article in here...Thanks for the comment! @Craig C – Very interesting comment and agree with the statement wholeheartedly. I’m a big proponent of form follows function and I believe there is great beauty in solving a problem elegantly.

Light weight guitars don’t have to lack sustain. In fact, my guitar sustains better than many off the shelf guitars.

There are a lot of factors that go into an instrument’s sustain including quality of construction and construction techniques. For example, the Musicyo Steinberger I picked up for the neck, bridge and headpiece had a very sloppy neck pocket. As soon as I removed the screws, it simply fell out. In comparison, my guitar’s neck pocket is very snug – so much so that I could pick up the guitar by the neck without it being bolted in place! So right there, you have a much better mechanical connection and that is going to factor into sustain.

That’s just a small example but it should give you at least a small idea that there’s more to it than just building them heavy. :) Come to think of it, there’s probably an interesting article in here…

Thanks for the comment!

]]> By: Jonathon Boothhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-12590 Jonathon Booth Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:34:33 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-12590 Liking the guitar, I'm planning on building my own guitar and was just wondering how did you drill for the cables between the pickup cavities? Liking the guitar, I’m planning on building my own guitar and was just wondering how did you drill for the cables between the pickup cavities?

]]> By: Craig Chttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-12277 Craig C Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:22:23 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-12277 fascinated by your project.Moller, in his Essay on Architecture, taught that the building which was fitted accurately to answer its end would turn out to be beautiful, though beauty had not been intended. - Ralph Waldo EmersonI think this is certainly true with this guitar design. Purposeful design, efficient AND as a result, a work of art.I think devotion to traditional design is an anchor weighing the guitar industry down. I was given a Gibson Les Paul. it's heavy, and ackwardly designed from an ergonomic perspective.Question: does a light electric guitar sacrifice sustain? fascinated by your project.

Moller, in his Essay on Architecture, taught that the building which was fitted accurately to answer its end would turn out to be beautiful, though beauty had not been intended.
– Ralph Waldo Emerson

I think this is certainly true with this guitar design. Purposeful design, efficient AND as a result, a work of art.

I think devotion to traditional design is an anchor weighing the guitar industry down. I was given a Gibson Les Paul. it’s heavy, and ackwardly designed from an ergonomic perspective.

Question: does a light electric guitar sacrifice sustain?

]]> By: Mike Jhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-12262 Mike J Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:53:19 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-12262 A friend sold me a spirit (left hand). I have been playing it upside down. Does anyone have leftover spirit bodies like the one you took apart that they no longer want? I am happy with the stock body style you took the parts off of (as is. I just want to get a right hand body in the diiferent wood types so I can play right side up for me. A friend sold me a spirit (left hand). I have been playing it upside down. Does anyone have leftover spirit bodies like the one you took apart that they no longer want? I am happy with the stock body style you took the parts off of (as is. I just want to get a right hand body in the diiferent wood types so I can play right side up for me.

]]> By: Robert Irizarryhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-11389 Robert Irizarry Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:02:57 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-11389 Welcome to the site, Newbie Brad!At the moment, you can click on <a href="http://elutherie.org/tags/guitar-build-1" rel="nofollow">Guitar Build #1</a> (also listed in the Topics section) to see all of the articles related to this project.Among my to-do's are several follow-up articles related to just those questions - experience to date, suggested improvements, etc.Longer term my intent is to do some prototyping of ideas. At the moment, I'm working on coming up with time efficient methods of doing this. So I'm exploring a number of venues.Hope that helps and stay tuned! Welcome to the site, Newbie Brad!

At the moment, you can click on Guitar Build #1 (also listed in the Topics section) to see all of the articles related to this project.

Among my to-do’s are several follow-up articles related to just those questions – experience to date, suggested improvements, etc.

Longer term my intent is to do some prototyping of ideas. At the moment, I’m working on coming up with time efficient methods of doing this. So I’m exploring a number of venues.

Hope that helps and stay tuned!

]]> By: Newbie Bradhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-11372 Newbie Brad Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:19:42 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-11372 Very, very clean. Great job! Do you keep an archive of any further exploits you've had with this guitar? Are you still happy with it, etc? Any changes you've made since birthing it? Newbie Brad PS I wish I could wave a magic wand and build one like it as a fretless, that's my flavor guitar since a few years now. Very, very clean. Great job! Do you keep an archive of any further exploits you’ve had with this guitar? Are you still happy with it, etc? Any changes you’ve made since birthing it? Newbie Brad PS I wish I could wave a magic wand and build one like it as a fretless, that’s my flavor guitar since a few years now.

]]> By: Robert Irizarryhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-237 Robert Irizarry Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:42:00 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-237 Hi Andrew! Thanks! I've enjoyed the process. To the best of my knowledge, there have only been a handful of successful Klein-based builds by amateur builders. I'm fortunate to count myself among them. :) Hi Andrew! Thanks! I’ve enjoyed the process. To the best of my knowledge, there have only been a handful of successful Klein-based builds by amateur builders. I’m fortunate to count myself among them. :)

]]> By: Andrewhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-238 Andrew Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:45:00 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-238 I first saw a Klein in Guitarist magazine (around 1990)and had a friend enlarge a colour copy of it. I bought a second-hand Hohner GT3 for peanuts the same year and hatched a plan to cobble together a Klein. Made a body out of mahogany and prepared the neck but that's as far as it got - the trem fractured at the point it sits in the body. <br />Really pleased someone's gone ahead and built one, especially as it would seem Klein Electrics are doomed. Congratulations!<br />Andrew I first saw a Klein in Guitarist magazine (around 1990)and had a friend enlarge a colour copy of it. I bought a second-hand Hohner GT3 for peanuts the same year and hatched a plan to cobble together a Klein. Made a body out of mahogany and prepared the neck but that’s as far as it got – the trem fractured at the point it sits in the body.
Really pleased someone’s gone ahead and built one, especially as it would seem Klein Electrics are doomed. Congratulations!
Andrew

]]> By: Robert Irizarryhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-239 Robert Irizarry Tue, 26 Dec 2006 05:05:00 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-239 Hello Wally and thank you! That is certainly high praise. Happy Holidays! Hello Wally and thank you! That is certainly high praise. Happy Holidays!

]]> By: Wally Bannershttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-240 Wally Banners Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:26:00 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-240 that sir is a work of Art.!!!!<br />MERRY XMAS:) that sir is a work of Art.!!!!
MERRY XMAS:)

]]> By: Robert Irizarryhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-241 Robert Irizarry Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:09:00 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-241 Hey Greg! Unfortunately, there aren't very many options if you're looking for a headless with tremolo. On the other hand, there are several workable solutions for fixed bridge designs. I'll be looking toward one of these for the next design.<br /><br />As far as the look of the guitar, I lean toward a "form follows function" aesthetic thus the minimalist layout. Hey Greg! Unfortunately, there aren’t very many options if you’re looking for a headless with tremolo. On the other hand, there are several workable solutions for fixed bridge designs. I’ll be looking toward one of these for the next design.

As far as the look of the guitar, I lean toward a “form follows function” aesthetic thus the minimalist layout.

]]> By: GregPhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-242 GregP Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:10:00 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-242 I wish the Synapse bridges weren't fixed. When I found out the entire line was fixed bridge, I was pretty disappointed!<br /><br />Robert, this is looking great. I'm a big fan of purpose-driven design as matt says.<br /><br />Greg I wish the Synapse bridges weren’t fixed. When I found out the entire line was fixed bridge, I was pretty disappointed!

Robert, this is looking great. I’m a big fan of purpose-driven design as matt says.

Greg

]]> By: Robert Irizarryhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-243 Robert Irizarry Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:10:00 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-243 Hey GL - I worked on several pickguard designs but I wasn't particularly happy with any of them. I was trying to avoid the Klein solution which involves both top routing and rear routing - the top pickup and switch are in a pickguard while the rest of the electronics are rear routed. I ended up opting for the rear route instead. However, I may still visit the idea in a future design or consider a smaller scratchplate that doesn't necessarily involve any of the electronics. Hey GL – I worked on several pickguard designs but I wasn’t particularly happy with any of them. I was trying to avoid the Klein solution which involves both top routing and rear routing – the top pickup and switch are in a pickguard while the rest of the electronics are rear routed. I ended up opting for the rear route instead. However, I may still visit the idea in a future design or consider a smaller scratchplate that doesn’t necessarily involve any of the electronics.

]]> By: G L Wilsonhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-244 G L Wilson Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:47:00 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-244 I'm with you on the single volume and no tone control. Tone controls are usually a complete waste of time anyway. Have you opted for no scratch-plate? I’m with you on the single volume and no tone control. Tone controls are usually a complete waste of time anyway. Have you opted for no scratch-plate?

]]> By: Robert Irizarryhttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-245 Robert Irizarry Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:26:00 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-245 Hi Matt! Good to see you. I've been looking at the Synapse components since the next build will be a fixed bridge. I would consider the bridge with piezo pickups for acoustic tones. Hi Matt! Good to see you. I’ve been looking at the Synapse components since the next build will be a fixed bridge. I would consider the bridge with piezo pickups for acoustic tones.

]]> By: matthttp://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar.html#comment-246 matt Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:41:00 +0000 http://buildingtheergonomicguitar.com/2006/12/19/guitar-build-first-ergonomic-guitar/#comment-246 Robert it looks great! I love how naked and purpose driven it appears. On the other hand I'd have filled that control cavity with switches and knobs straight off, but I'm just like that.<br /><br /> Thought i'd mention to you that Musicyo is now selling parts for their Steinberger Synapse models. The bridge is hardtail and the headpiece will take ball end or regular strings. prices are very reasonable for headless hardware. Just a little info for the next on. Robert it looks great! I love how naked and purpose driven it appears. On the other hand I’d have filled that control cavity with switches and knobs straight off, but I’m just like that.

Thought i’d mention to you that Musicyo is now selling parts for their Steinberger Synapse models. The bridge is hardtail and the headpiece will take ball end or regular strings. prices are very reasonable for headless hardware. Just a little info for the next on.

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